GovFresh podcast: Government PDFs

Posted on April 17, 2025


Government PDFs, a GovFresh podcast

The controversial file format beloved by government.

This week, Luke Fretwell invited me on the GovFresh podcast to talk about government PDFs. We talk about the 90s, what it’s like to download a PDF on your phone, and what governments can do instead of PDFs.

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About Luke

Luke is an entrepreneur, writer, and civic hacker. He’s also a mentor and we’ve collaborated on so many civic things over the last decade.

He helped develop the Department of Civic Things brand. The logo he designed makes me smile every time I look at it.

Over the last few years we built Proudly Serving, a magical collaboration with dozens of contributors offering their perspectives on public service.

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